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Eric_IHP New Member
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WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

Aloha

 

We have added a Xerox Workcenter 7225 to the printers I can choose. Previously my color choice was a HP5220 Series PCL6. The Catalog I produce has correct color on the HP. But the Text and Picture Quality is by a large margin better on the 7225. All text and pictures on the 7225 have a slight "red" tint on the 7225. The Catalog is printed from the Booklet tab in InDesign. Why is there a difference between printers and How do I get the Xerox 7225 to print the corect colors.

 

Mahalo

Eric

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Eric_IHP New Member
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

Aloha

 

I just realizied that with the HP printer the colors match the screen colors, with the Zerox they do not. The Quality of the Zerox is so much beter I realy want to get the colors corect

 

Mahalo

Eric

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fiery Occasional Advisor
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

Compared to the WC71xx, color quality is realy dissapointing on WC72xx.

Seems a software/firmware issue though.

JD Power Valued Member
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

Has anyone found a solution for this? we just replaced a 7125 with a 7225 in an archetect office and they are very unhappy with the 7225 print quality. They 4 color grey has a pinkish tint and the overall density is lighter than the 7125.

Firmware is current.

Customer and Service Color Calibrations have been done.

Using the Global Driver

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Analyst Nation Moderator Joe053204-xrx
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

PCL versus PS, With a PS driver you gain vast color control, but you need to adjust your workflows to match, PCL sends much less information, so there is 0 chance you will actually be able to hit a pantone color , but what you see on a completely uncalibrated RGB monitor is typical of the print. It's more of expectation verses reality.

 

Neither the 7120 nor 7220 come with PS as standard, so it may not be an option to use it.

 

In my opinion, the PS driver defaults are pretty wretched for accuracy, Xerox Automatic Color invariably will make blues too dark and add too much magenta to shadow. PCL of course doesn't do anything

 

1.GIF

 

In the above dropdown, I prefer None but I calibrate my monitor with an X-rite, LCD or sRGB may work better for some.

 

 

 

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JD Power Valued Member
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

joe,

If the PS option leaves the blues too dark and Magenta overpowers background. I don't see where it's a viable solution.

Am I misunderstanding?

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Analyst Nation Moderator Joe053204-xrx
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

You missed most of the paragraph it seems, I stated that the defaults are the issue and explained how to resolve it and even showed it in a picture and highlighted the area to try.

 

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In my opinion, the PS driver defaults are pretty wretched for accuracy, Xerox Automatic Color invariably will make blues too dark and add too much magenta to shadow. PCL of course doesn't do anything

 

1.GIF

 

In the above dropdown, I prefer None but I calibrate my monitor with an X-rite, LCD or sRGB may work better for some.

 

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You will never get 100% accuracy, the printer isn't exactly a Full Pantone Certified  device, it is an Office product, meant to make your Pie chart look great so that is where the driver defaults are set.

 

I can't tell you 100% how to get accurate color, because if you are comparing printed output to your monitor it would merely be a fluke for them to be the same unless you had a it calibrated too. And even then, no matter the printer, you would need to load ICC profiles from the printer into the Application (ala Indesign) and likely for a print shop export that document as a PDF/x3 or higher and print that to make sure the whole profile and everything else make it to the printer.

 

On my work laptop I have 2 external monitors, all run of the mill type stuff from Dell, all 3 monitors show the same image slightly different due to how they are made, all the same manufacturer.

 

On my design PC I have it Calibrated and the output is very close to any printer when the profiles are loaded.

 

Pantone Calibration

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JD Power Valued Member
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

OK, my bad. I only saw the driver on the right and that it was the PS driver. As you say, there really are no possible changes with the PCL driver. Also learned today that there are 6 spar updates since the last .73 public release. Unfortunately it didn't make a difference. I have attached samples to this post: the first 1 is from the 7125 and the 2nd is from the 7225. as you can see, the 7225 are darker and more saturated.

Also note that both the 7125 and 7225 COPY the origionals faithfully. there is no disernable difference between either of the origional and their copies.

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JD Power Valued Member
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Re: WorkCenter 7225 Color Quality

Forgot to list RID 507440885 and to agree with you; I told the client on my first visit the 7125 and 7225 are Business color machines, not graphic color. Sadly, there is a very noticable difference in print quality.

Thanks

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